Post by murderofcrows on Aug 21, 2008 16:00:53 GMT -5
got this from here: marsonfire.livejournal.com/17676.html#cutid1
i thought it was interesting, pretty accurate for the most part, and it also provides some insight into some of the characters. even if you aren't really into astrology [i'm not really, i just find it interesting] or don't believe in it, it still brings some interesting characteristics of the characters to life.
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I've decided to do astrology charts for each of the characters, based on their ages if the book/movie is set in 1966:
Darry - January 5 1946
Soda - October 8 1949
Ponyboy - July 22 1952
Two-Bit - June 20 1948
Steve - April 15 1949
Johnny - March 1 1950
Dallas - November 9 1948
Tim - November 5 1947
I didn't do astrology for Cherry, Marcia or Randy, because we aren't given their ages, we're only told the girls are 16 or 17. Bob is "about 18", but no age is given for Randy, who could be 17 or 18.
Cherry - March 8
Randy - February 10
Marcia - May 24
I made up my own birthdays for Curly and Angela for my own stories (these are NOT canon):
Curly – April 9 1951
Angela – August 10 1952
The planet that gives us our sign, the one we tell people, is the Sun. In addition to the sun, the other planets are also in signs when you're born (and they move much more slowly so birth times aren't always needed). Each planet rules certain personality aspects, and if it's in a certain sign, it may influence your personality like that sign. For instance if Venus, which rules love and relationships is in Capricorn, you'd may act more like a Capricorn in relationships, and if it's in Libra, you'd act more like a Libra etc. Each planet rules certain aspects:
Sun - Your basic character traits; this is the sign you are
Moon - emotional self, feelings, customs, habits, moods
Mercury - the mind, communications, intelligence
Venus - love, romance, relationships, people
Mars - energy, drive, courage, boldness
Jupiter - health, wealth, optimism, opportunity
Saturn - limitations, boundaries, authority
Uranus, Neptune and Pluto move so slowly through the signs they are more generational and colour the generations.
Some planets are at their best in certain signs and some planets go to pieces in certain signs. (For instance Venus in Scorpio is not a good position, but Venus in Libra is a good position).
Darry - January 5 1946
Sun - Capricorn
Moon - Aquarius
Mercury - Sagittarius
Venus - Capricorn
Mars - Cancer
Jupiter - Libra
Saturn - Cancer
Uranus - Gemini
Neptune - Libra
Pluto - Leo
Darry is a Capricorn, with the Moon in Aquarius. This placement gives him balance, unconventional thinking and a need for freedom. It also brings qualities of agreeableness, courtesy and comfort working in groups. Mercury in Sagittarius makes him changeable, quite brilliant, physically capable and sincere. It also brings a love of independence. With Venus in Capricorn, he'd be pretty reserved and cautious when it comes to love and relationships. Mars is also in Cancer, and it brings ambition, changeability, a need for security and an emotional approach to action. Jupiter in Libra brings a need to serve and help others. Saturn in Cancer brings a worrying nature, feelings of personal inadequacy and sensitivity.
Soda - October 8 1949
Sun - Libra
Moon - Taurus
Mercury - Libra
Venus - Scorpio
Mars - Leo
Jupiter - Capricorn
Saturn - Virgo
Uranus - Libra
Neptune - Leo
Pluto - Aries
Soda actually has a pretty practical moon, and it's a great moon sign. It makes him reliable, intuitive, family oriented and more conservative than he would be without Moon in Taurus. Mercury in Libra makes him changeable, ambitious and charming. Scorpio is Venus is really interesting - it's a very intense placement for relationships and isn't the best place for Venus. Luckily having the Sun in Libra will temper a lot of the bad qualities of Scorpio in Venus. It does indicate trouble with women, extreme passion and often controlling behaviour. Mars in Leo gives a lot of energy and excitement, action, warmheartedness and a love of excess. Jupiter in Capricorn gives the qualities of a sense of responsibility, an urge to succeed and a mix of enthusiasm and caution. Saturn in Virgo is gives him a sharp mind, and also makes him a big worrier.
Ponyboy - July 22 1952
Sun - Cancer
Moon - Leo
Mercury - Leo
Venus - Leo
Mars - Scorpio
Jupiter - Taurus
Saturn - Libra
Uranus - Cancer
Neptune - Libra
Pluto - Leo
Pony has a lot of Leo in his chart, so his personality will be coloured by that. The Moon in Leo brings a dramatizing nature and someone who is controlled by their emotions. They are also quite self sacrificing. Mercury in Leo brings qualities of ambition, personal conviction and intuition. Venus in Leo is someone who likes attention, warmhearted and a bit on the proud side. They usually earn a living through artistic endeavors. Mars in Scorpio is very intense - nerves of steel, self control, determination, practicality, hard headedness, with a quick mind. Jupiter in Taurus brings a love of home and comfort, generosity, love of the good life. Saturn in Libra brings an artistic, honest and high-mindedness to the personality.
Two-Bit - June 20 1948
Sun - Gemini
Moon - Sagittarius
Mercury - Cancer
Venus - Cancer
Mars - Virgo
Jupiter - Sagittarius
Saturn - Leo
Uranus - Gemini
Neptune - Libra
Pluto - Leo
Two-Bit's Moon is in Sagittarius, making it hard for him to find what he wants, or even define it. This placement loves freedom, is extremely sociable and enjoys mixed company. They are seldom at rest and has a touch of luck about them. They are very easygoing. Mercury in Cancer brings a receptive mind, a need to create a good impression, and a natural bent at psychology and understanding things. They often win people's trust easily. Venus in Cancer brings a great need to be loved, but not to chase after it. They are loyal and a bit vulnerable. This placement needs a positive outlet for emotions, which often are bottled up. They are charitable and kind-hearted people. Mars in Virgo brings impatience, control, energy that's hidden, planning. Jupiter is Sagittarius brings luck, optimism, acute observer of others and a great sense of humour. Saturn in Leo is born leaders, good organizers and are bold in action.
Steve - April 15 1949
Sun - Aries
Moon - Sagittarius
Mercury - Aries
Venus - Aries
Mars - Aries
Jupiter - Aquarius
Saturn - Leo
Uranus - Gemini
Neptune - Libra
Pluto - Leo
Steve has a Moon in Sagittarius, so a love of freedom, social activity and company. Mercury in Aries gives him a a sharp mind, originality and able to speak their opinions. Venus in Aries is an interesting position - passion, restlessness, sexually attractive, exciting, brilliant and intense. Mars in Aries is iron-willed, open, frank, direct, great leadership abilities and a quick temper. Jupiter in Aquarius gives a capavity for doing good in the world, and can visualize large scale plans. They enjoy unusual work and make friends easily, and can bse seen as detached and cool with emotions. Saturn in Leo gives leadership abilities, organizational skills and the ability to carry out actions.
Dally - November 9 1948
Sun - Scorpio
Moon - Aquarius
Mercury - Libra
Venus - Libra
Mars - Sagittarius
Jupiter - Sagittarius
Saturn - Virgo
Uranus - Cancer
Neptune - Cancer
Pluto - Libra
Dally has the Moon in Aquarius, which means he has a need for freedom, original ideas, interested in unusual things and can be thought of as eccentric. Mercury in Libra brings impeccable judgement, changeable, charming, an air of authority. Venus in Libra is a great position - very social, loves parties, friends are very important, strong magnetism and can play on emotions to get what he wants. Mars in Sagittarius is the type to travel and move around, be independent. They have sharp minds, love company and the dislike insincerity and are critical of people in high places. They always speak their mind. Jupiter in Sagittarius brings luck, an ability to get what they want with little effort, sharp mind, successful at gambling and a good sense of humour. Saturn in Virgo brings a dependability, worrisome attitudes and suspicion of new people and situations.
Johnny - March 1 1950
Sun - Pisces
Moon - Leo
Mercury - Aquarius
Venus - Aquarius
Mars - Libra
Jupiter - Aquarius
Saturn - Virgo
Uranus - Cancer
Neptune - Leo
Pluto - Libra
The Moon in Leo makes one controlled by their emotions, not afraid of responsibility and are self sacrificing. Mercury in Aquarius brings an understanding of both sides of things, a versatile mind, an excellent judge of human nature who is tolerant of what they find. They are happier in groups and can be super sensitive and capable of being artistic. Venus in Aquarius brings an openness and sincere nature, an extraordinary ability to discern someone's character, independence and freedom mean more to them than they realize. Mars in Libra brings a social conscience, a need for a goal in life, an impressive diplomat and strong artisticl leanings. Their struggle is to adjust to the disharmonious things they feel. Jupiter in Aquarius gives a great capacity to do good, idealism, detached and cool in emotions. Saturn in Virgo brings a sharp mind,a worrisome nature, quiet, serious, reserved.
Tim - November 5 1947
Sun - Scorpio
Moon - Leo
Mercury - Scorpio
Venus - Scorpio
Mars - Leo
Jupiter - Sagittarius
Saturn - Leo
Uranus - Gemini
Neptune - Libra
Pluto - Leo
Tim has the moon in Leo - emotions rule, but he's not afraid of responsibilty and intense ambition. Mercury in Scorpio brings an intense and clear mind, the best and worst of a man, visionary, highly mistrustful, suspicious and bold, reckless and secretive. Also intuition is heightened. Venus in Scorpio brings possessiveness, passion, self-control, demanding, suppressing strong emotions makes them frustrated and restless. They are efficient and practical. Mars in Leo brings energy, vitality, warmheartedness, passion, with a love of extremes. They are born leaders and fixed in their opinions. Jupiter in Sagittarius brings optimism, candid in comments to people, which often offends, a sharp mind for making money, a good sense of humour. Saturn in Leo brings disappointment in love, born leader abilities, stickler for duty, difficulty expressing emotions, aloofness, excellent organizer and logical.
There is one sign I left out - the rising sign or ascendant. It is the sign rising on the horizon when you're born and you need your birth time to find it. So the characters could be any rising sign depending on their time of birth. Each sign is rising for about 2 hours a day, so during a 24 hour period, all signs hit the horizon. A rising sign affects how others see you. So we can guess at those ones for each character and make them whatever we want.
i thought it was interesting, pretty accurate for the most part, and it also provides some insight into some of the characters. even if you aren't really into astrology [i'm not really, i just find it interesting] or don't believe in it, it still brings some interesting characteristics of the characters to life.
--
I've decided to do astrology charts for each of the characters, based on their ages if the book/movie is set in 1966:
Darry - January 5 1946
Soda - October 8 1949
Ponyboy - July 22 1952
Two-Bit - June 20 1948
Steve - April 15 1949
Johnny - March 1 1950
Dallas - November 9 1948
Tim - November 5 1947
I didn't do astrology for Cherry, Marcia or Randy, because we aren't given their ages, we're only told the girls are 16 or 17. Bob is "about 18", but no age is given for Randy, who could be 17 or 18.
Cherry - March 8
Randy - February 10
Marcia - May 24
I made up my own birthdays for Curly and Angela for my own stories (these are NOT canon):
Curly – April 9 1951
Angela – August 10 1952
The planet that gives us our sign, the one we tell people, is the Sun. In addition to the sun, the other planets are also in signs when you're born (and they move much more slowly so birth times aren't always needed). Each planet rules certain personality aspects, and if it's in a certain sign, it may influence your personality like that sign. For instance if Venus, which rules love and relationships is in Capricorn, you'd may act more like a Capricorn in relationships, and if it's in Libra, you'd act more like a Libra etc. Each planet rules certain aspects:
Sun - Your basic character traits; this is the sign you are
Moon - emotional self, feelings, customs, habits, moods
Mercury - the mind, communications, intelligence
Venus - love, romance, relationships, people
Mars - energy, drive, courage, boldness
Jupiter - health, wealth, optimism, opportunity
Saturn - limitations, boundaries, authority
Uranus, Neptune and Pluto move so slowly through the signs they are more generational and colour the generations.
Some planets are at their best in certain signs and some planets go to pieces in certain signs. (For instance Venus in Scorpio is not a good position, but Venus in Libra is a good position).
Darry - January 5 1946
Sun - Capricorn
Moon - Aquarius
Mercury - Sagittarius
Venus - Capricorn
Mars - Cancer
Jupiter - Libra
Saturn - Cancer
Uranus - Gemini
Neptune - Libra
Pluto - Leo
Darry is a Capricorn, with the Moon in Aquarius. This placement gives him balance, unconventional thinking and a need for freedom. It also brings qualities of agreeableness, courtesy and comfort working in groups. Mercury in Sagittarius makes him changeable, quite brilliant, physically capable and sincere. It also brings a love of independence. With Venus in Capricorn, he'd be pretty reserved and cautious when it comes to love and relationships. Mars is also in Cancer, and it brings ambition, changeability, a need for security and an emotional approach to action. Jupiter in Libra brings a need to serve and help others. Saturn in Cancer brings a worrying nature, feelings of personal inadequacy and sensitivity.
Soda - October 8 1949
Sun - Libra
Moon - Taurus
Mercury - Libra
Venus - Scorpio
Mars - Leo
Jupiter - Capricorn
Saturn - Virgo
Uranus - Libra
Neptune - Leo
Pluto - Aries
Soda actually has a pretty practical moon, and it's a great moon sign. It makes him reliable, intuitive, family oriented and more conservative than he would be without Moon in Taurus. Mercury in Libra makes him changeable, ambitious and charming. Scorpio is Venus is really interesting - it's a very intense placement for relationships and isn't the best place for Venus. Luckily having the Sun in Libra will temper a lot of the bad qualities of Scorpio in Venus. It does indicate trouble with women, extreme passion and often controlling behaviour. Mars in Leo gives a lot of energy and excitement, action, warmheartedness and a love of excess. Jupiter in Capricorn gives the qualities of a sense of responsibility, an urge to succeed and a mix of enthusiasm and caution. Saturn in Virgo is gives him a sharp mind, and also makes him a big worrier.
Ponyboy - July 22 1952
Sun - Cancer
Moon - Leo
Mercury - Leo
Venus - Leo
Mars - Scorpio
Jupiter - Taurus
Saturn - Libra
Uranus - Cancer
Neptune - Libra
Pluto - Leo
Pony has a lot of Leo in his chart, so his personality will be coloured by that. The Moon in Leo brings a dramatizing nature and someone who is controlled by their emotions. They are also quite self sacrificing. Mercury in Leo brings qualities of ambition, personal conviction and intuition. Venus in Leo is someone who likes attention, warmhearted and a bit on the proud side. They usually earn a living through artistic endeavors. Mars in Scorpio is very intense - nerves of steel, self control, determination, practicality, hard headedness, with a quick mind. Jupiter in Taurus brings a love of home and comfort, generosity, love of the good life. Saturn in Libra brings an artistic, honest and high-mindedness to the personality.
Two-Bit - June 20 1948
Sun - Gemini
Moon - Sagittarius
Mercury - Cancer
Venus - Cancer
Mars - Virgo
Jupiter - Sagittarius
Saturn - Leo
Uranus - Gemini
Neptune - Libra
Pluto - Leo
Two-Bit's Moon is in Sagittarius, making it hard for him to find what he wants, or even define it. This placement loves freedom, is extremely sociable and enjoys mixed company. They are seldom at rest and has a touch of luck about them. They are very easygoing. Mercury in Cancer brings a receptive mind, a need to create a good impression, and a natural bent at psychology and understanding things. They often win people's trust easily. Venus in Cancer brings a great need to be loved, but not to chase after it. They are loyal and a bit vulnerable. This placement needs a positive outlet for emotions, which often are bottled up. They are charitable and kind-hearted people. Mars in Virgo brings impatience, control, energy that's hidden, planning. Jupiter is Sagittarius brings luck, optimism, acute observer of others and a great sense of humour. Saturn in Leo is born leaders, good organizers and are bold in action.
Steve - April 15 1949
Sun - Aries
Moon - Sagittarius
Mercury - Aries
Venus - Aries
Mars - Aries
Jupiter - Aquarius
Saturn - Leo
Uranus - Gemini
Neptune - Libra
Pluto - Leo
Steve has a Moon in Sagittarius, so a love of freedom, social activity and company. Mercury in Aries gives him a a sharp mind, originality and able to speak their opinions. Venus in Aries is an interesting position - passion, restlessness, sexually attractive, exciting, brilliant and intense. Mars in Aries is iron-willed, open, frank, direct, great leadership abilities and a quick temper. Jupiter in Aquarius gives a capavity for doing good in the world, and can visualize large scale plans. They enjoy unusual work and make friends easily, and can bse seen as detached and cool with emotions. Saturn in Leo gives leadership abilities, organizational skills and the ability to carry out actions.
Dally - November 9 1948
Sun - Scorpio
Moon - Aquarius
Mercury - Libra
Venus - Libra
Mars - Sagittarius
Jupiter - Sagittarius
Saturn - Virgo
Uranus - Cancer
Neptune - Cancer
Pluto - Libra
Dally has the Moon in Aquarius, which means he has a need for freedom, original ideas, interested in unusual things and can be thought of as eccentric. Mercury in Libra brings impeccable judgement, changeable, charming, an air of authority. Venus in Libra is a great position - very social, loves parties, friends are very important, strong magnetism and can play on emotions to get what he wants. Mars in Sagittarius is the type to travel and move around, be independent. They have sharp minds, love company and the dislike insincerity and are critical of people in high places. They always speak their mind. Jupiter in Sagittarius brings luck, an ability to get what they want with little effort, sharp mind, successful at gambling and a good sense of humour. Saturn in Virgo brings a dependability, worrisome attitudes and suspicion of new people and situations.
Johnny - March 1 1950
Sun - Pisces
Moon - Leo
Mercury - Aquarius
Venus - Aquarius
Mars - Libra
Jupiter - Aquarius
Saturn - Virgo
Uranus - Cancer
Neptune - Leo
Pluto - Libra
The Moon in Leo makes one controlled by their emotions, not afraid of responsibility and are self sacrificing. Mercury in Aquarius brings an understanding of both sides of things, a versatile mind, an excellent judge of human nature who is tolerant of what they find. They are happier in groups and can be super sensitive and capable of being artistic. Venus in Aquarius brings an openness and sincere nature, an extraordinary ability to discern someone's character, independence and freedom mean more to them than they realize. Mars in Libra brings a social conscience, a need for a goal in life, an impressive diplomat and strong artisticl leanings. Their struggle is to adjust to the disharmonious things they feel. Jupiter in Aquarius gives a great capacity to do good, idealism, detached and cool in emotions. Saturn in Virgo brings a sharp mind,a worrisome nature, quiet, serious, reserved.
Tim - November 5 1947
Sun - Scorpio
Moon - Leo
Mercury - Scorpio
Venus - Scorpio
Mars - Leo
Jupiter - Sagittarius
Saturn - Leo
Uranus - Gemini
Neptune - Libra
Pluto - Leo
Tim has the moon in Leo - emotions rule, but he's not afraid of responsibilty and intense ambition. Mercury in Scorpio brings an intense and clear mind, the best and worst of a man, visionary, highly mistrustful, suspicious and bold, reckless and secretive. Also intuition is heightened. Venus in Scorpio brings possessiveness, passion, self-control, demanding, suppressing strong emotions makes them frustrated and restless. They are efficient and practical. Mars in Leo brings energy, vitality, warmheartedness, passion, with a love of extremes. They are born leaders and fixed in their opinions. Jupiter in Sagittarius brings optimism, candid in comments to people, which often offends, a sharp mind for making money, a good sense of humour. Saturn in Leo brings disappointment in love, born leader abilities, stickler for duty, difficulty expressing emotions, aloofness, excellent organizer and logical.
There is one sign I left out - the rising sign or ascendant. It is the sign rising on the horizon when you're born and you need your birth time to find it. So the characters could be any rising sign depending on their time of birth. Each sign is rising for about 2 hours a day, so during a 24 hour period, all signs hit the horizon. A rising sign affects how others see you. So we can guess at those ones for each character and make them whatever we want.