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Post by ash on Aug 12, 2008 12:53:47 GMT -5
How do you feel when someone uses a event that happened in any other time-line after the 1960's and uses it for their own purpose to build sympathy for their OFC/OMC?
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Post by murderofcrows on Aug 12, 2008 13:56:56 GMT -5
ai, that's just...pathetic...in every way, shape, manner, and form...
i mean, this is the 60's here!! do people think that NOTHING happened? there is so much that happened during this period of time, there are SO MANY things they could use besides THAT. looks like they were just too lazy to research...a common ailment of authors of ff
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Post by ash on Aug 12, 2008 15:45:42 GMT -5
If anything I thought this was really disrespectful to the people who died on that day. I mean come on, why would you do that?
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Post by murderofcrows on Aug 12, 2008 16:15:11 GMT -5
definitely. i mean, there are ways of writing about it that honor and respect the dead...and then there's this, who just discusses it so flippantly and doesn't give it what it deserves...plus sticking it somewhere where it doesn't even belong in the first place...
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Post by ash on Aug 12, 2008 16:52:26 GMT -5
Rape fics look as if their nothing compared this.
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Post by Keira on Aug 13, 2008 0:56:13 GMT -5
All I can really say is that we were all once like that, and some of us may still be, lol. I've looked back on things I wrote when I was pretty young and had no idea what I was doing, and they're fairly cringe worthy. I suppose there is a degree of artist licensing that makes it so you can incorporate anything into a story, if you make it believable... unfortunately, it's a process we all go through and have to learn how to tame the urge to include ridiculous happenings. What I wouldn't have given to speed up that particular process for myself...
Just one of the many reasons I decided against an English degree, or the possibility of being an editor. I realized I would have to read stories on EVERY level of writing skill.
Everyone has to start somewhere *Shrugs*. It's a good thing I don't have to read it.
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Post by ash on Aug 13, 2008 1:39:22 GMT -5
You make a good point, every writer has to start somewhere. But when you use something you don't really grasp all that well like that story for example. It just doesn't feel right or honorable, I probably sound like some Grinch or something.
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Post by missmouse on Aug 13, 2008 21:28:07 GMT -5
Honestly, I find it completely disgusting in that instance.
Would I care so much if, say, someone was diagnosed with AIDS in the 60's? No. That's not bothering to do your research, whereas this seems to be deliberately disrespectful to those involved in the events.
You can say "We all start somewhere" "We all make mistakes" or anything you want until you're blue in the face, but it does not change the fact that when writing about real events, we have some sort of obligation, whether moral or to the public, to make things respectable.
It was a brief comment but I nearly feel ill over it.
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Post by Keira on Aug 14, 2008 8:57:32 GMT -5
You may be right, but I guess I'm also coming from the perspective of having been involved with several fandoms during 9-11, and I can tell you that a disgusting amount of stories came out right afterwards about orphaned children or single parent families, because of it - whether they fit the time period or not. If you're going to go with the angle of authors being disrespectful or insensitive, than there are many many many stories that fall into that category, having to do with anything and everything other than 9-11. I don't condone or approve them, but I don't think it's fair to single out this one author either. By the looks of it, she's probably still a kid and clearly doesn't understand how her writing affects older readers.
I'm not looking to argue or anything, lol. That's just my view point. I would feel devastated for any author who stumbled upon a thread and found him or herself being flamed and they didn't really understand why *shrugs*. But yes, in general, I think events should be researched and not taken lightly.
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Post by ash on Aug 14, 2008 11:01:16 GMT -5
I feel like such an a-hole now. Maybe I should take this off, I wasn't really thinking about it (no excuse, though) I was just mad. I was looking at the videos on YouTube about the subject(I was eleven when it happened) and I just so happened to remember this fic from a long time ago and read it over. I feel bad for how she used the subject, but now I feel worse if she just came on here and just so happened to find her fic flamed till there's no tomorrow . So I'm thinking about taking this off, is it OK with everybody? P.s I know there are a lot of authors that do that, some probably without shame for what they did, but you bring up a point Keira. I can't just blast one author without getting at another. P.p.s Board can start again. If somebody asks, just say give a short summary.
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Post by missmouse on Aug 14, 2008 17:52:14 GMT -5
Why don't you just take the link out of your original post? Could just turn this into a general post about things that happen out-of-time.
I once saw an Outsiders fic where an OC was mourning the death of her father who died in Pearl Harbour the week before.
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Post by ash on Aug 14, 2008 17:59:12 GMT -5
Oh, duh!! (To me not you.) I'll get right on it, that seems to be one of my flaws, I don't notice something till the last minute. Thanks, this should make me feel a little better.
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Post by Keira on Aug 14, 2008 18:26:09 GMT -5
Good idea
I'm sorry if I made anyone feel bad, as that was never my intention. Nor was it my intention to sounds like I have all the say or anything. This forum is open to any and all discussion -- I would just hope that we could keep from directly bad mouthing individual people. I'd like this to be an inviting place, not one that has the potential of hurting anyone.
I'm fully supportive of the idea of keeping this open for discussion, seeing as we all have some pretty strong opinions on the matter! Lol.
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Post by ash on Aug 14, 2008 22:05:01 GMT -5
Thanks. To tell you the truth, I started to feel bad when you mentioned how some that start are just a kid and how bitchy ( is it okay to say that on this board?) I sounded . But I don't like it when people disregard stuff like tragidies when loved ones were lost.
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