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Post by st.elmo-lover on Aug 23, 2007 21:24:32 GMT -5
So, what are you guys' views on politics if you have any at all? I'm a firm Liberal. Or so all my Social Studies teachers tell me. And I'm more into the Democratic party, too. Oh, and I LOVE OBAMA! OBAMA 2008. (and nah, it doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he's an ILLINOIS senator  ) |
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latch22
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Post by latch22 on Aug 23, 2007 21:38:41 GMT -5
... Wow, that's pretty blunt. I'm not sure that one's politics can simply be summed up that way. (I'm also not sure if this is quite the place for such...)
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Post by st.elmo-lover on Aug 23, 2007 21:57:15 GMT -5
Well I mean in general. Like party wise. Liberal or Conservative or Republican or Democratic. Nobody has to elaborate. It's just a simple question. I don't mean any harm. :S
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Post by theonceler on Aug 23, 2007 22:24:08 GMT -5
If we're speaking incredibly generally then I would say I lean more toward the Democratic side, and I dig Joe Biden.
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Post by latch22 on Aug 23, 2007 22:36:41 GMT -5
I wasn't being defensive; I know that you don't mean any harm. That was just my opinion. I apologize if there was a misunderstanding or if I seemed rude or touchy. That wasn't my intention, and sentiment is pretty well lost in translation over the Internet, which is a shame.
That's what I meant, though. Just by stating one's party affiliation, I don't think that you can grasp a great deal of someone's beliefs unless they are incredibly devoted to a specific party. It just doesn't say much to me unless you *do* elaborate.
I suppose that I'm on the fence. I would not call myself a Democrat, but I share a lot of their views. I would be closer to the truth in referring to myself as a Republican, but a lot of what they stand for doesn't do it for me. I suppose that I most closely identify myself as Libertarian.
Really, I just think that those labels are to provide funding and support. What's more important than someone's party is their character, viewpoints, and plans--and there I go with my Individualism, so I'll stop now. Maybe I should just register Independent. Lol.
And I really only said all of that because I'm dancing around the issue, which is that I'm pretty conflicted. Good for you guys, though, who know staunchly what you stand for.
Mars, that's fascinating. I had no idea, and I was curious. (Marijuana Party and Rhinoceros Party? Seriously? Maybe I should finally take that trip to Canada...)
Cheers!
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Post by st.elmo-lover on Aug 23, 2007 22:52:01 GMT -5
Wow, mars. I'm glad you said all that. I learn something new everyday, lol. I have to be honest, I don't know that much about Canada. Maybe a few things here or there but that's about it. So that was smething new for me.
And I agree with you latch and I didn't take your comment offensive I thought maybe you had taken the topic offensive and I didn't want that at all. Lots of people are conflicted about their stands on politics. I know I still am in a way. I've just grown up in a family where that sort of thing is often discussed. My mom is really clear in her beliefs and we kind of have little family debates when we watch the actual debates. And they make politics a huge part of most of my classes at school, too. I'm young and everything and I'm still learning so I am conflicted. But I'm trying to learn more if you know what I mean.
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Post by zevie on Aug 24, 2007 0:12:34 GMT -5
The difference between the Liberal and the PC is like the difference between Limburger cheese flavoured ice cream and Limburger cheese flavoured frozen yogurt. They pretty much leave the same taste in your mouth. One of them might be slightly better for you, but you can never tell which.
BC is Liberal? No kidding? BC air is like, 78 percent nitrogen, maybe 10 percent oxygen and twelve percent pot smoke. (Toronto is only seven percent. The other five is smog.) Everything good starts on the west coast.
My favourite American politician is Jon Stewart. Oh, he's...not? Oh...
Once in my Civics class (WASTE of money) we held a debate where everyone yelled at once and someone got beaned with a stapler. I thought we screwed it up, but I was wrong.
Uh. Sorry. Shut up, me. Some day my political verbalizing will get me stoned. And, by stoned, I mean hit in the face with rocks. Someone else has already paved the way for the other kind of stoned. Long live the Canadian legal system.
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Post by Tensleep on Aug 27, 2007 23:46:24 GMT -5
Well, let's see. In Alberta we're Tories. We are all for Semi-Capitalist ideas and Alberta Beef on every plate. Basically, that means the PC's rule here. Steven Harper - our Prime Minister - has his riding here, in Calgary. So I grew up in the middle of Conservatism at it's best.
Uncle Ralph, our old Premier (The guy who runs the Province), was a news anchor for a while. So the whole bit is a popularity contest. There's an "old boys' club" in Calgary that basically plans out the economics for the whole province. Surprisingly, few know this. They got Stellmack - the current Premier - elected and he's such a moron. But hey, I was too young to sway the vote. Damn age limits.
You know, I watched the debates when they did the elections last - 1 month before I was legal to vote, grr - and the Bloc candidate had the best answers to everything. I swear, if he wasn't for separatism and French, he would so be running this country. Jack Layton freaks me out, though. I've come to the conclusion it's the mustache. *nods* And that Steven Harper's hair is going to grow legs and walk off one of these days.
As for my own personal views, I am all for Uncle Ralph coming back. I'm not one for change - I'm more of a reactionary that way. I know, probably the only living one out there. That just makes me all the more special!
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Post by Tensleep on Aug 28, 2007 22:47:11 GMT -5
Dude! That makes so much sense! Harper is a Lego man! That's why he has no personality!
Ok, random, but not too random for once. We used to have this poster up in my Grade ten Social room. There was a Sopranos style poster with Cretchien in Tony's spot all in that grey scale with the title in red. They titled it "The Liberanos" instead. It was hilarious. Instead of a gun in the words it was a dollar sign for the 'S'. I love that poster.
I miss Cretchien. He was always good for a laugh! That could be the reactionary in me again since he hasn't been in power for like...4 or 5 years. He hasn't even caused a news worthy scandal in 3. And according to many he was not a very good leader, but hey. I'm still mad Mayor Al Dour retired 7 years ago even though the new Mayor - Dave - went to school with Dad and my aunts and uncles and I've known him forever.
Change is bad, oh so very bad...
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Post by zevie on Aug 29, 2007 19:39:34 GMT -5
LMAO! Harper's hair! Ahh, Canadian politics. Toronto people are still mad about the speed bumps. I miss Chretien, too!
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Post by zickachik73 on Aug 30, 2007 14:17:15 GMT -5
When people ask me what party I belong to, I tell them I'm a staunch independent.  And it's true. I am. I think both parties are rather despicable and sort of wish to be a hermit at times. Canadian politics sound very interesting though. Maybe I'll move upward and onward.
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Post by Tensleep on Aug 30, 2007 22:31:37 GMT -5
Laura, our politics rock. We have our government officials at the federal level meet in a room where the two parties are separated by 'a sword and a foot' on each side because that way they couldn't sword fight in Parliament back in the olden days 'cause they couldn't reach each other, even with a sword. Funny, huh?
We vote in ridings, have a 'first past the post' policy for who wins and our country barely notices when Parliament is dismantled - effectively a temporary collapse of the government.
I at least enjoy them *shrugs*
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Post by hahukumkonn on Aug 31, 2007 12:50:34 GMT -5
I'm an NDP man, so that would make me very hard-core Dem in the USA I live in British Columbia as well, and I agree that in Vancouver in particular the pot demographic makes for some interesting things going on at the local level. |
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Post by BlindedxxFalcon on Aug 31, 2007 13:58:46 GMT -5
I'm 12, but I know what's going on with politcis. And I know that I'm a democrat, even if I can't vote.
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Post by queenjaneapprxmtly on Aug 31, 2007 14:57:49 GMT -5
Same here. I'm sixteen, but I'm pretty aware -- and even more so now that I'm in American Government at school, and one of the main focuses in the class seems to be current events.
I'm not sure what party I belong with. I'm kind of on a fence -- there are some Republican views that I support and some Democratic. We did this thing in Gov. earlier in the week that was supposed to match up some of our choices on this one paper with what party we fit most with and which presidential candidate we match up with. Of course, we had a problem on the school computers with that and then I didn't do it at home, so naturally I have no idea, lol.
I'm still very bothered by the fact that I won't get to vote in the upcoming election. My birthday's in the beginning of December, and so by the time I turn eighteen next year (which is so scary to think about, btw), the elections will already have passed. I'll be able to register, I just won't be able to vote ... at least, not until I'm nearly twenty-two. D:
Oh, Bill Clinton came to our school today, ha. (No, I'm not joking.) :D
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And it's true. I am. I think both parties are rather despicable and sort of wish to be a hermit at times. Canadian politics sound very interesting though. Maybe I'll move upward and onward.