Post by Ryker on Apr 3, 2007 13:14:32 GMT -5
Hello there, I’m Ryker and here to inform you on Mary Sue’s! Please excuse my sarcasm in places; Mary-Sue’s get me that way.
So welcome all readers, fangirls and bored web surfers. I take it you’re here because you want recognize and avoidthose vicious little creatures called Mary-Sue’s either that or you got lost, but hey. I suggest this page be bookmarked *nudge nudge hint hint*
What is a Mary-Sue? I hear you ask, well -
"Mary Sue" is an unkind term used to describe an unrealistically perfect character. She (rarely he) is created to serve one purpose: wish fulfilment. When a writer devises someone through whom she (rarely he) can have fantastic adventures and glorious sex with. I know, I know. Sad but true.
SISTER SUE
A Sister Sue is probably the most despised yet the most popular Sue in Outsiders fandom. She is inserted into fandom throwing canon off the rails. There is so much wrong with her it’s hard to pick where to start.
Family:
Curtis Sue:
Most commonly she is a Curtis, usually the youngest or in between Soda and Ponyboy. Darry is insanely overprotective of her that it can almost be seen as slightly disturbing. If Sue is one minute late after her curfew Darry will go ballistic.And if he had the money would call on the hounds and search parties.
Shepard Sue:
To my horror I’ve discovered that there are now Shepard Sister stories. The Shepard sister is nothing like Angela. Oh no no no. She is also nothing like Curly or Tim. Nope. She is however very quiet and sweet, of course she has a tough side – because after all she is a Shepard. *rolls eyes* If she was like Angela, I think it would make it more believable. Shepard Sue is usually the youngest and a lot like Curtis Sue.
Cade Sue:
Cade Sue is usually Johnny’s female counterpart. The tragic, abused puppy that’s been kicked too many times and whatever.
Winston Sue:
It’s a toss up. Sometimes she is her brother Dally’s counterpart but commonly she is quiet, sweet and reserved with – wait for it – a tough side.
Past:
Depends on the author. Cade and Winston Sue almost always have a tragic past that they can’t escape from. It’s usually a toss up when it comes to Curtis and Shepard Sue. Cause Curtis Sue has her oh-so lovely brothers to protect her.
Pairing:
Christ, Sister Sue is paired with every Tom, **** and Harry under the sun. Curtis Sue will usually be paired with one of the gang, which of course her brothers are fine with. Shepard, Winston and Cade Sue will usually be paired with a Curtis.
Sex Life:
Ho Ho Ho – Yes Sister Sue’s are usually a little whorish. They will sometimes end up pregnant too. Oh yes, despite the time period The Outsiders is set and despite what we know of Sandy. Sister Sue’s pregnancy will be accepted just fine and dandy, after a little drama of course.
Another common thing in Sister Sue's is rape. Most Sister Sue's will be raped at least once during the story. Frankly, I find this disgusting. Rape is a serious and horrible thing and should not be touched with a ten foot pole by most Fanfic author's, especially the one's under sixteen.
Being the Sue she is, Sister will soon somewhat forget about the rape and carry on her life like nothing happened. Things don't work that way. Unless you're one of the mediocre writers who know what they're doing; don't hint at it, mention it and don't write about it. Period.
Death:
Sadly, they are most likely to live.
Appearance:
Winston Sue: Her hair will white blonde, long fiery and untamed. Clearly she hasn’t heard of a comb or brush. Also her eyes will be like two pieces of blue fiery ice. Blue ice? Ice on fire? Sound ridiculous to anyone else?
Cade Sue: Will have big brown eyes and dark hair just like her dear old brother. Her eyes will convey so much pain that the heavens will crack and shed tears.
Curtis Sue: Oh, Curtis Sue, let me count the ways I loath thee! Curtis Sue will be a cross between her brothers. Like if you threw in Darry, Soda and Pony all in a blender you’d come up with Curtis Sue. Eg: Curtis Sue had wheat blonde hair that shone gold in the sunlight and her eyes were like Darry’s ice blue but had warmth to them. How gag worthy. However she is also often portrayed as not looking like any of them.
Shepard Sue: She usually looks like her siblings but with softer features.
All of them will have the perfect body. She will be skinny with the curviest hips and biggest rack. In reality it does not work that way. The only size 6 girls with double D’s I’ve seen have had implants or stuff their bras. Girls with big boobs are usually heavy and size 12 and above. Now I’m a size 6 myself, but I’ll admit I’m only a B cup. As with most size 4 or 6 girls I know.
Names:
Curtis Sue will always have an uncommon ‘original’ name with the excuse being that their father was an original guy - Names like Candycane, Babygirl,Carbon-Peroxide…
The other Sister Sue’s will have normal names but with a different spelling, or a boy’s name and sometimes a modern name. If a chick told me her name was Fred I’d wonder about her parent’s eyesight.
FootNote:
Now, I’m not saying you should avoid writing Sister Fics because I’ll admit there are a few really well written ones out there (NittanyLizard, AntiqueOrange and Karone), where their characters are well developed and the above has been avoided. You will get a lot more credit if you come up with a more realistic, and normal character.
Feel free to discuss and add more!
So welcome all readers, fangirls and bored web surfers. I take it you’re here because you want recognize and avoid
What is a Mary-Sue? I hear you ask, well -
"Mary Sue" is an unkind term used to describe an unrealistically perfect character. She (rarely he) is created to serve one purpose: wish fulfilment. When a writer devises someone through whom she (rarely he) can have fantastic adventures and glorious sex with. I know, I know. Sad but true.
SISTER SUE
A Sister Sue is probably the most despised yet the most popular Sue in Outsiders fandom. She is inserted into fandom throwing canon off the rails. There is so much wrong with her it’s hard to pick where to start.
Family:
Curtis Sue:
Most commonly she is a Curtis, usually the youngest or in between Soda and Ponyboy. Darry is insanely overprotective of her that it can almost be seen as slightly disturbing. If Sue is one minute late after her curfew Darry will go ballistic.
Shepard Sue:
To my horror I’ve discovered that there are now Shepard Sister stories. The Shepard sister is nothing like Angela. Oh no no no. She is also nothing like Curly or Tim. Nope. She is however very quiet and sweet, of course she has a tough side – because after all she is a Shepard. *rolls eyes* If she was like Angela, I think it would make it more believable. Shepard Sue is usually the youngest and a lot like Curtis Sue.
Cade Sue:
Cade Sue is usually Johnny’s female counterpart. The tragic, abused puppy that’s been kicked too many times and whatever.
Winston Sue:
It’s a toss up. Sometimes she is her brother Dally’s counterpart but commonly she is quiet, sweet and reserved with – wait for it – a tough side.
Past:
Depends on the author. Cade and Winston Sue almost always have a tragic past that they can’t escape from. It’s usually a toss up when it comes to Curtis and Shepard Sue. Cause Curtis Sue has her oh-so lovely brothers to protect her.
Pairing:
Christ, Sister Sue is paired with every Tom, **** and Harry under the sun. Curtis Sue will usually be paired with one of the gang, which of course her brothers are fine with. Shepard, Winston and Cade Sue will usually be paired with a Curtis.
Sex Life:
Ho Ho Ho – Yes Sister Sue’s are usually a little whorish. They will sometimes end up pregnant too. Oh yes, despite the time period The Outsiders is set and despite what we know of Sandy. Sister Sue’s pregnancy will be accepted just fine and dandy, after a little drama of course.
Another common thing in Sister Sue's is rape. Most Sister Sue's will be raped at least once during the story. Frankly, I find this disgusting. Rape is a serious and horrible thing and should not be touched with a ten foot pole by most Fanfic author's, especially the one's under sixteen.
Being the Sue she is, Sister will soon somewhat forget about the rape and carry on her life like nothing happened. Things don't work that way. Unless you're one of the mediocre writers who know what they're doing; don't hint at it, mention it and don't write about it. Period.
Death:
Sadly, they are most likely to live.
Appearance:
Winston Sue: Her hair will white blonde, long fiery and untamed. Clearly she hasn’t heard of a comb or brush. Also her eyes will be like two pieces of blue fiery ice. Blue ice? Ice on fire? Sound ridiculous to anyone else?
Cade Sue: Will have big brown eyes and dark hair just like her dear old brother. Her eyes will convey so much pain that the heavens will crack and shed tears.
Curtis Sue: Oh, Curtis Sue, let me count the ways I loath thee! Curtis Sue will be a cross between her brothers. Like if you threw in Darry, Soda and Pony all in a blender you’d come up with Curtis Sue. Eg: Curtis Sue had wheat blonde hair that shone gold in the sunlight and her eyes were like Darry’s ice blue but had warmth to them. How gag worthy. However she is also often portrayed as not looking like any of them.
Shepard Sue: She usually looks like her siblings but with softer features.
All of them will have the perfect body. She will be skinny with the curviest hips and biggest rack. In reality it does not work that way. The only size 6 girls with double D’s I’ve seen have had implants or stuff their bras. Girls with big boobs are usually heavy and size 12 and above. Now I’m a size 6 myself, but I’ll admit I’m only a B cup. As with most size 4 or 6 girls I know.
Names:
Curtis Sue will always have an uncommon ‘original’ name with the excuse being that their father was an original guy - Names like Candycane, Babygirl,
The other Sister Sue’s will have normal names but with a different spelling, or a boy’s name and sometimes a modern name. If a chick told me her name was Fred I’d wonder about her parent’s eyesight.
FootNote:
Now, I’m not saying you should avoid writing Sister Fics because I’ll admit there are a few really well written ones out there (NittanyLizard, AntiqueOrange and Karone), where their characters are well developed and the above has been avoided. You will get a lot more credit if you come up with a more realistic, and normal character.
Feel free to discuss and add more!