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Post by queenjaneapprxmtly on Jun 7, 2007 1:25:55 GMT -5
The Rolling Stones started in the late 50s, I think, same as the Beatles, except they didn't really achieve much success until the Beatles started the British Invasion in '64. They were very prominent in the 70s, though. I still can't believe they haven't broken up, lol.
I could see them listening to Buddy Holly, too, except he sounds a little softer for their tastes. They probably would, though.
I'm on dial-up too and it takes FOREVER, but it's so worth it. I've been downloading songs all day, pretty much, lol. I've got a lot to add to Windows Media later. :)
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Post by zevie on Jun 7, 2007 2:23:29 GMT -5
Holy man. I'm not going to add much, because so much has been covered, lol. But, about that Beatles thing...I agree with whoever likened them to the Backstreet Boys (Mars was that you? I can't remember and I'm too lazy to check...) I figured they were repulsed by the Beatles sex appeal thing. Like, they were specifically targeted at girls because they were all pretty, and so boys couldn't listen...same as the boy bands of the 90s, lol (not saying they were made like that, just maybe that's how the greaser guys saw it). So, they just wouldn't look fairly at the Beatles music. I could see greasy girls liking the Beatles just as much as Socy girls. And I thought they liked Elvis for the same reasons everyone now loves "oldies" lol.
Very late, sorry... Hat's off to whoever manages to decipher this message.
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Post by queenjaneapprxmtly on Jun 7, 2007 11:29:45 GMT -5
That's a good point, I could see greaser girls liking the Beatles too. I know there were boys who did like them, but it's true that they appealed to girls a lot more than boys.
People liked Elvis so much because his sound was so new at the time. Before him, there'd been nothing, at least as far as rock 'n roll was concerned, because he basically invented it. That, and he combined so many genres of music into one -- country, rock, jazz, blues, etc. -- it was all there, and so new. That's why people liked him so much and that's why he achieved so much popularity. What "same reasons" did you mean? Lol. :)
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Post by FC on Jun 7, 2007 11:49:21 GMT -5
I could SOOOOO see Two-Bit running around singing the Pina Colada song!!!! Hahahahaha
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Post by queenjaneapprxmtly on Jun 7, 2007 12:16:27 GMT -5
I don't think I've heard that song, lol. Although the name rings a bell ...
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Post by maxiekat on Jun 7, 2007 12:41:07 GMT -5
"If you like Pina Coladas and getting caught in the rain ..." It's a really cheesy 80's song that is virtually impossible to get out of your head once it gets in stuck, lol ... which it is right now. Of course, I only have myself to blame, since I'm the one who brought it up in the first place.
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Post by queenjaneapprxmtly on Jun 7, 2007 13:03:52 GMT -5
Lol, that totally reminds me of this time in U.S. History in like ... January, when we were learning about WWI, my teacher made one of our note titles "Love is a Battlefield," and he was like, "There. Have fun with that song stuck in your head for the next three days."
And of course, I went home that night and downloaded it (because it is a good song, you have to admit), so it was stuck in my head for about six days, lol. :p
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Post by zevie on Jun 7, 2007 17:55:08 GMT -5
QJ, I just meant the nostalgia that we feel now for oldies...like, a lot of the time like it's better music than what's around now, lol (not always...). It's not quite the same, I know, since it was about a decade (er, right?) for them, and no one remembers N*Sync fondly. But, just an element of that, I guess, is what I meant by "same reasons". Just as to why Ponyboy mentions him and not someone more current.
On a side note, I've heard a bunch of different people credited with creating rock and roll, but I kinda think it wasn't just one person...
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Post by queenjaneapprxmtly on Jun 7, 2007 17:57:03 GMT -5
Well yeah, a lot of people were credited and they definitely contributed to it, but Elvis was like ... the main guy, lol. He really was the one that got the ball rolling, as it were. :p
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Post by gardenfli on Aug 26, 2007 12:11:37 GMT -5
This is a great forum! I hope you don't mind me throwing in my two-bits (groan, bad pun) regarding what type of music I think the greasers would likely listen too.
Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, The Who, etc. is a bit ahead of the times, their prime was more late 1960s, early 1970s. And given the antipathy most greasers had for "hippies" (as apparent in TWTIN); I can't really imagine psychedelic rock.
As far as Motown, motown was of course huge in the 1960s, but I think it is also important to keep in mind the social/political situation of the 1960s and the location of the book-the American southwest. Motown would not really be the type of music that Southern lower class white males would be listening too. Just based on what I've read about the 1960s (particularly the civil rights era) and some hints from TWTIN, if any "group" would listen to Motown it would much more likely be the Socs than the Greasers.
So, in my VERY humble opinion, I would rule out psycedelic and Motown for timeline, and social reasons as music the boys would have, or even realistically, could have, listened and enjoyed.
As for the music they would have listened too: Elvis of course, probably Jerry Lee Lewis, etc.
If there is a site online that has the top radio hits in the South in 1964-1966, I think that would be a bit help for trying to decide what type of music the boys would have enjoyed.
Hope I helped!
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Post by fosterchild on Aug 26, 2007 12:29:04 GMT -5
Interesting take on the music situation, gardenfli! Something to think about as you have some very good points there. Welcome to our little world!
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Post by gardenfli on Aug 26, 2007 16:19:37 GMT -5
Your point on Elvis and Janis is very well taken. And certainly, rock music and the Elvis's songs and style had its roots in R&B and of course Elvis didn't "invent" rock music; he reappropriated the music recorded by early African American R&B and rock musicians and made it more "approachable" for conservative mainstream white America. But, the roots of rock n'roll and even some of Elvis's early songs were already laid down in a foundation created by African American musicians.
And speaking of what type of music the boys would have listened too, I think anything Rockabily is a pretty realistic guess.
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Post by queenjaneapprxmtly on Aug 26, 2007 17:10:17 GMT -5
You all made very valid points, but Idk, I can still see them listening to at least some psychedelic groups, like The Doors.
And though they probably weren't exactly into the British Invasion, I can see them liking The Stones' earlier stuff, and maybe The Kinks, or at least their "harder" stuff, like "All Day and All of the Night" or "Tired of Waiting for You." It seems kinda greaser-style to me. Sorry if I mentioned all of that at some point before; it's been a while since I've posted in this thread, lol.
I've been very into The Who lately (they are just awesome), but that's obviously not their style. But I think you also have to keep in mind that neither the greasers or the Socs were always that collective and individually they all like different things, so maybe while the majority of one group disliked psychedelic music, one or two of them might have been into it. Same goes for all the other genres. :)
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Des
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Post by Des on Aug 26, 2007 21:40:27 GMT -5
-laughing-
Another writer after my own heart!
All of my fic have titles from songs I think the greasers would listen to...Let It Be, Don't Bring Me Down, and No Sugar Tonight/New Mother Nature.
Music helps me to think when I'm writing, and it's amazing how many ideas for plots you can get from a song. Songs themselves are nothing but a story put to music, so I take advantage of it whenever I can.
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Post by queenjaneapprxmtly on Aug 26, 2007 22:07:54 GMT -5
Des, those are all fab songs! I love titling my stories after songs. It's especially helpful when you can't think of a good enough title yourself, lol.
Were you talking about the Beatles' "Don't Bring Me Down" or the one by The Animals? I'm guessing you meant The Beatles, but they both have a song of the same title, so I was just wondering. Both are great songs, though. ^_^
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